Helwan HA-300

1964

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Helwan HA-300

Originally conceived to meet a Spanish Ejercito del Aire requirement for a small M=1.5 interceptor and the design responsibility of a Germano-Spanish team supervised by Prof Willy Messerschmitt, the HA-300 programme was transferred to Egypt. Here development and construction was undertaken in Factory No 36 at Helwan, this being controlled by the Egyptian General Aero Organisation (EGAO). Originally designed for the proposed afterburning Orpheus BOr 12 turbojet, the HA-300 was modified for the Brandner-designed E-300 with a calculated afterburning rating of 4800kgp. The first prototype, powered by a 2200kgp Orpheus 703-S-10, was flown on 7 March 1964, a similarly-powered second prototype flying on 22 July 1965. The definitive third prototype with the E-300 engine commenced taxi trials in November 1969, but the HA-300 programme was then terminated without flight testing of this prototype being undertaken. It was anticipated that the E-300-powered HA-300 would be capable of attaining 12000m and M=2.0 within 2.5 min of take-off. The Orpheus-powered prototypes achieved approx M=1.13 during flight test.

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Helwan HA-300A three-view drawing (1613 x 1190)

Specification 
 DIMENSIONS
  Wingspan5.84 m19 ft 2 in
  Length12.40 m41 ft 8 in
  Height3.15 m10 ft 4 in
  Wing area16.70 m2179.76 sq ft
 PERFORMANCE
  Max. speed1490 km/h926 mph

Helwan HA-300

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Gezira, e-mail, 19.04.2020 14:02

In order to understand the history of the HA-300, one has to look at contemporary history and the (aircraft) engineers of the NS era. Many of them were then recruited by a central figure named Ferdinand Brandner to develop the Hispanic Aviation 300 aka HA-300 in Cairo, which Messerschmidt first designed for the Spanish. It was German engineers who had developed the aircraft in Egypt. Ferdinand Brandner wrote the book "Zwischen den Fronten" - a book worth reading!

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arnulf Jursa, e-mail, 02.09.2021 Gezira

No, my dear Gezira, in order to understand, what we did between 1960 and 1967, you have to talk to someone who was part of the team, like me.

So, what ever you would like to know ... just aks !

Regards,
Arnulf

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Mahmout Bin Walid, 11.01.2022 arnulf Jursa

Habibi,
You were not part of the team, I was part of the team. Dont make a lie.

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erasmusguy, e-mail, 30.08.2017 14:28

Barry, Dassault did approach Fairey Aviation and there was some collaboration between the two. In return for technical data Dassault gave Fairey use of the test facilities at Cazaux.

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Yehia Shalash, e-mail, 21.06.2017 19:35

To Mr. Yahia Al Shaer
All the links mentioned in your post are not available.
Are you still pursuing your project?
If yes, what are the links?
Thank you

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Yehia Shalash, e-mail, 21.06.2017 19:30

To Mr. Ali Baba
I am collecting information about the subject.
Can you please leave me an email address where I can communicate with you privately?
Thank you

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lxbfYeaa, e-mail, 14.03.2024 Yehia Shalash

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Ali Baba, e-mail, 19.05.2016 09:02

Hi Folks,
I think, I can clarify a few things. I have worked in the aircraft factory 135 from 1960 up to 1967. We have then employed 5.000 Egyptians in our factory, which we have built from scap as a greenfield project. We have developed and built the jet engine whereas Messerschmitt (factory 36) has built the airoplane. So, if you have any questions, just let me know.

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Paul Scott, e-mail, 27.01.2015 22:08

True, the Mirage was more than likely the result of seeing the Fairey Delta 2 flying over the Dassault factory and the French are not one for shilly-shallying like the British, who, have the experience and knowledge but because of their lacklustre politicians fail to utilise potential.

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David, e-mail, 05.10.2014 20:22

Wonder if performance would be improved with a smaller rudder and tail assembly

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Ali Moussa, e-mail, 21.09.2014 05:20

My late Brother Mustafa Moussa and many friends were part of this project. I visited the place in early 1967 and it was main target for the Israeli offensive war of 1967. In 1968 Israel stole the blueprints of the French Mirage 2 and the it was most likely with the knowledge and collaboration of the French Government. It is now 47 years since then. Nobody knows what went on during this period except that the Egyptians took their revenge in the war of 1973 against all the odds. Without America's intervention in the Youm Kiporot war Israel would have had a defeat at a grand scale.

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Barry, 16.09.2013 18:13

No way did the French steal the idea of the Mirage from this diminutive aeroplane. They more likely stole the idea from the Fairy Delta 2 which after it's record breaking flights in Britain went to Toulon and continued it's research there.

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Dalhats Laudzafata Avicena, e-mail, 12.09.2013 18:34

Yes omar,you dont say the Muslim stupid if you say like that you aren't stupid people bu you the dumbest monkey in universe,why?

Because Abbas ibnufirnas is muslim and he make the first wing in the world.

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Omar, e-mail, 06.01.2013 16:06

did egypt invent this jet by itself?

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ADF-01, 01.02.2012 19:54

Looks cool bro.

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Mohamed Mokhtar, e-mail, 05.12.2011 00:42

Mark: But Messerschitt began his program on the 300 for Spain as early as 1952..There is no point to say who copied who..Development must build on what initially existed..True science and good knowledge tend to be of universal nature..Complementary,Integral and inclusion rather than exclusion..That's the way it ought to be..

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fahuang, 20.06.2011 06:25

can anyone help me know how to become a fighter pilot in Egypt?
I know it sounds silly.. but I never really knew.

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pedro JALDO, e-mail, 29.05.2011 23:27

mi padre y yo mismo estuvimos en egipto con la fabricacion del saeta H200 (ALKAHIRA),EL ULTIMO TRABAJO QUE MI PADRE REALIZO FUE EL MONTAJE DE LA SILLA LANZABLE DEL PILOTO. LA GUERRA DE LOS 6 DIAS TERMINO CON TODO ESTO. MASNA 36 EN HELWAN, YO VOLE CON EL SAETA Y PILOTO DE PRUEBAS SR. ESTEBAN, OTRA DATO CURIOSO QUE EN ESPAŅA NO QUEDA NADA DEL H300 Y LOS ALEMANES TIENEN UN ORIGINAL EN UN MUSEO. ME GUSTARIA COMUNICARME CON MUSTAFA ABDEL-WAHAB

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jordanian, e-mail, 13.03.2011 10:27

that is good experiment to arab world and egypt

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Moustafa Abdel-Wahab, e-mail, 22.09.2010 16:34

The jet is now in Oberschleissheim (Germany) museum in restored condition

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omar H, e-mail, 03.09.2010 17:10

where is the jet now? where do i have to go in egypt to see it?

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Yahia Al Shaer, e-mail, 30.01.2010 20:50

We have started a Facebook initiaty, at the following address , to keep the Versions 2 and 3 in Egypt, as a national heritage of the military aircraft industry in Egypt .....

www.facebook.com /group.php?gid=202417391715&ref=nf

It is worthy, to have a look there, because of the published photos, docs and designs of all three versions, be seen there .

In addition to the V1 and V2 of HA-300, the following URLs are of the Version 3

photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net /hphotos-ak-snc3 /hs037.snc3 /12468_239316002192_555757192_4166408_6844287_n.jpg


photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net /hphotos-ak-snc3 /hs116.snc3 /16342_1286087346614_1063059153_863551_4971050_n.jpg



Yahia Al Shaer

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