Messerschmitt P.1101
1945
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Messerschmitt P.1101

An experimental jet fighter capable of having its wings set at different angles of sweepback. It was never completed but influenced the post-war development of the Bell X-5.

Messerschmitt P.1101

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wanshan, 20.06.2011

many problems.
MiG-15 was not an evolution of any German aircraft but rather an indengenous design with an external resemblance of Ta-183

, 20.06.2011

Messerschmitt P.1101
1945

Aero99, 12.02.2011

This craft seems very similar to the MiG-9. Especially with the engine in the fusalgue. I wonder if these aircraft had a link together.

Maximiliano, 13.04.2010

The soviet copy of the P1101 was a Sukhoi Su 9 but these airplane don´t has sweepback wings.
The MiG15 don´t has a occidental copy and Argentine Pulqui II grow up in the 4th prototipe like a good fighter and it wasn´t copy of the P1101 germany fighter. Look the triptic of 3 airplanes.

bao, 29.12.2009

This plane also having an influenced to Saab Tunan

lookatthis, 19.10.2009

http://www.luft46.com/mess/mep1101.html

fede, 16.09.2009

jajaja pero en realidad el pulqui II fue un avion muy noble;)

Gus,, 12.02.2009

Saban que yo soy un idiota resentido que no tiene ni puta idea acerca del Pulqui I y II y opino estupideces en internet para sentirme importante...?

Gus, 02.01.2009

Hi, I agree with Nikos. Ta 183 ws not designed by Kurt Tank, it was designed by Hans Muldock, who worked later for the british after the war. Tank worked on a roughly inspired design on Ta 183 when he was in Argentina, the already mentioned Pulqui II, that resulted in a complete fiasco; it never performed better than Dewoitines Pulqui I. There were four prototypes of Pulqui II constructed in a period of nearly 4 years (50-53), and the first three were lost in accidents cause of the poor design (IIRC, Otto Behrens, the test pilot died; a few days before his death he said that the airplane was "the worst he had ever experienced as a test pilot").The project was initially halted in 1953, because an economic crisis and the fact that Tank and his team left Argentina, and finally cancelled with the fall of Pern in 1955. In those times, 1953, even Migs 15 and F-86s were no longer busy in dogfights in the Korean sky.

It is absolutely true that Me P.1101 was later developed by Bell as the X5.

Nikos J. Farsaris, 01.01.2009

If there was another plane evolved from Me-1101 that was Grumman XF-10 (indirectly thou, through Bell X-5) but also as a prototype only since its complexity led to many problems.
MiG-15 was not an evolution of any German aircraft but rather an indengenous design with an external resemblance of Ta-183

Stephen Spears, 29.07.2008

The Ta-183 never got beyond the windtunnel model stage. No prototypes were ever built. The MiG-15 does use some capturred German research after WWII, but that's all. The North American F-86 Sabre did too. They first invisaged the F-86 as a straight wing fighter, that is until they found the research in Germany on swept wings.

wuwu, 16.07.2008

ohh poor people from west Europa... do you really thing that Mig-15 had to be a copy of west-cauntry construction?? first thing - The P.1101 was found by AMERICAN soldiers... second - Mi-15 was designed in the most advanced - it that time - aircraft labotatory called CAGI, the construction was much more advanced than P-1101... example: hermetic canopy, much better engine, quite diffrent fluseage-idea... etc etc... the similar things are: both were jet aircraft, both had wings and fluseage:)

www.aviastar.org, 06.07.2008

Some sources say that the famous Soviet MiG-15 was at least inspired by the Ta 183 due to the fact that the Soviets captured plans and prototypes for the Ta 183 from the Germans at the end of World War II. The MiG-15 has a superficial resemblance in layout though the planes are different in structure, detail shapes, and proportions. The MiG-15 shared the high tailplane, bubble canopy, and nose mounted intake and guns but these were common features of fighter designs of that era (for example, the Republic F-84B/F, the French Dassault Ouragan and Mystre or the SAAB Tunnan). A detailed design history of the MiG-15 has been published by the noted Russian aviation historian Yefim Gordon which refutes any connection between the Ta 183 and the MiG-15 and shows the MiG-15 to be an entirely separate development.

from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_183

Stephen S., 13.06.2008

The MiG-15 is copied from the plans for the Ta-183, not the P.1101. The P.1101 went to the USA following the war. When it was captured by the Americans. This plane lead to the Bell X-5 experimental Variable Geometry plane. The first one of its kind to fly, and move its wings in flight. Unlike the P.1101, which couldn't because the Germans didn't have the technology to move the wings yet. The scientists were working on the gear that'd make it possible for the P.1101's pilot the adjust the plane's sweep in flight when the war ended.

Alex, 28.04.2008

Neither, the correct genealogy leads to Kurt Tank's Ta-183 designed for Focke-Wulf. Compare the P.1101 to the MiG and throw in the I.Ae. 33 Pulqui II, another of Tank's designs, and you will see, that the three have much more in common, than any of them have with the Messeschmitt design. The general layout was obvious of the time, because it was difficult to calculate the airflow through twisted ducts. Therefor almost all contemporary designs share the "open nose" and straight through flowpath.

p, 01.03.2008

The MIG-15 is copped from this plane P.1101

Stefan, 08.09.2007

Both!

Stefan

Sgt.KAR98, 15.12.2006

This plane origined the MiG-15 or the F-86 Sabre?

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