If you find this cool you should see the "Amerika Bomber",cant find much information on the net, but the plane was a bigger version of the Gotha Go 229, with 6 jetengines. It was designed to drop a nuclear bomb on New york. Luckely enogh the allies stopped it.
paul scott, e-mail, 26.08.2009 02:00
The Germans or Nazis, whatever your outlook, produced another world-beating design, fortunately for us, it didn't like so many, really have time to get off the ground as it were. Truly outstanding and we can see where all the major proponents of 'flying wings', Germany the USA and De Havilland in the UK, produced '163 Comet' lookalikes, though with its jets this made the grade better. would be nice to have seen film of it flying, but the only real pics I've seen is where American scientists/engineers have it in a hangar. hopefully one day, someone will find 'lost film' of it.
Leo Rudnicki, e-mail, 08.08.2009 19:53
Francis Bacon first espoused the "scientific method". Don't trust what you read. V stands for "versuchsmachine" (prototype) Versuchs noch mal. Me (or Bf)-109's were produced in variants A through K. And maybe the Ho-229 was more like the Avenger II. It never flew either. Enjoyed the read, Tom.
Tom Krapf, e-mail, 08.08.2009 17:13
A Truly revolutionary aircraft about which there is a ton of incorrect information on the web.
The B2 has very little in common with the Ho 229. For one thing it is over three times larger. The B2 is more closely related to the Ho 18, which was a proposed all-wing bomber that was to carry Germany's atomic bomb to New York City. The Ho 18 was still in the design phase when the war ended. Nothing was ever built.
What truly delayed aircraft like this from entering mass production before the end of the war was jet engine technology. The Me 262 could adapt to constantly changing engine sizes because the engines hung under the wing in nacels. If engine specs changed they could just build different cowlings. The Ho 229 placed the engines inside the center section of the aircraft. If the specifications, particularly the diameter, changed the entire airframe had to be redesigned. The Ho 229 was designed with the use of two BMW 002 (also called the 3302) engines in mind, but BMW dropped this engine in favor of the 003. The Ho 229 V1 was converted to a glider because redesigning it for the 003 engines, which still weren't ready anyway, would have meant missing a deadline set by Goering for the first flight of the aircraft. The V1 flew well, albeit without power. The V2 was designed to house the 003, which changed twice during development and required redesigns to the airframe each time, and then still wasn't ready so a pair of Junkers Jumo 004B engines were used, requiring yet another redesign. The V3 was built with a pair of 004Bs from the onset, but the V3 was not complete at war's end. In fact former Horten workers were hired by U.S. General McDonald to complete the aircraft after the war was over so that it could be studied and flown. The flying never happened. It was given to the British initially, who wanted to replace the 004Bs with a pair of Rolls Royce Nenes, but determined that it would be too difficult and the results not worth the effort. The British returned the V3 to the US where it has languished ever since.
Never, ever, ever refer to this aircraft as a Go 229, or even worse a Gotha Go 229. This is totally incorrect and insults the true designers of the aircraft who were the ones who received the approval and funding of Goering to build the Ho 229. This confusion stems from the fact that Gothaer Wagonfabrik AG was tasked with building the aircraft as it entered series production. Essentially Gotha was building the aircraft under license, as the Horten brothers did not have the facilities to mass produce the aircraft; in point of fact both were active service Luftwaffe at the time, and for the duration of the war. The official designation handed down by the RLM is the Horten Ho 8-229. Ho designates the manufacturer, in this case Horten (Me for Messerschmitt, He for Heinkel, etc.). 8 designates a powered aircraft (gliders were designated 108). 229 is a series number assigned by the RLM, who gave various manufacturers a series of numbers to use for their models, which is why you will note that aircraft from the same manufacturer often have number designations that are close together, even if the aircraft differ greatly. The RLM would on occasion reassign numbers to other manufacturers if the original manufacturer wasn't using the number. The V and number after the aircraft states that it is experimental and the number of the prototype. V is for Versuch, which is German for experimental. Production aircraft would not have used the V designation; they would have used another letter as seen with the Me 109 which flew in A through G variants.
There is some great information available on this aircraft, but I caution anyone from trusting the info that is disseminated on the web. If you really want to be in the know read the books by David Myhra, who is probably the best living authority on the Ho 229 and the Horten brothers. He has written their biography "The Horten Brothers and Their All-Wing Aircraft" for which he interviewed both Walter and Reimar, as well as several other books on the Ho 229 specifically.
blofeld, e-mail, 03.08.2009 04:35
Spitzenklasse flugzeugmaschinenbau fur fliegen nach Russland.Auf Wiedersehen, ESB
Paco, e-mail, 13.07.2009 19:39
Very good aircraft
Dave, e-mail, 02.07.2009 23:10
we are indeed very lucky,this aircraft along with the 262 & 163 would have completely altered the outcome of the war, if they had gotten into any kind of production-But owing to Hitlers absolute stupidity - in all areas of the military - We have the present outcome.
Doug Beasley, e-mail, 30.06.2009 21:25
I like that wing aircraft. I think the Germans would of started making that aircraft later to start another war. I think i like to make a version of this aircraft. I think it would be neat to fly around the city or the country to get some TV airtime. It looks easy to build.
Jim Kleiner, e-mail, 30.06.2009 07:16
This aircraft was a Horten IX(9) or a H-229 v3, not a Go-229 (even if Goethaerfabrik were to build them). The Hortens developed the Nurflugel (all-wing) aircraft up from gliders starting in the early 1930's. They designed, tested and flew some 40 (or more) gliders and motorized airplanes with little support from any major manufacturers (or established aeronautical engineers). The Hortens were true aviation pioneers. Thank you both, Reimar and Walter.
Mike, e-mail, 29.06.2009 19:07
Last night (6-29-09) The National Geographic Channel ran a program on the Horton 229/Ho IX. The aircraft was built from scratch (a full size reproduction) using original plans and tested against 1940's radar. A beautifull plane and a spectacular show! It waill air again on July 15. Check the link for more: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/hitler-s-stealth-fighter-3942/Overview12#tab-Photos/14
Fred Wesselius, e-mail, 29.06.2009 16:23
Looks to me very similar to the Komet without the vertical stabilizer. The German engineers were extremely innovative. U.S. and U.S.S.R. later copied and took credit for many of their ideas.
murray, e-mail, 27.06.2009 04:57
if hitler could have massed produced the me-262, long enough to make the horton go-229 into a bomber , then what would ww2 could have been like ? stalin would have been driven out of moscow.... a possible stale mate with the west ?
Ron, e-mail, 17.06.2009 14:59
Does anyone know where I may be able to get plans suitable for Radio Control Model build of the XII and Ho229 Any help appreciated
ringo, e-mail, 17.05.2009 06:36
i have a modle of this plane and it is magnifisant
leo rudnicki, e-mail, 09.04.2009 23:27
Nice comments, Jeff. Every aircraft builder based his designs on something before except two brothers from Ohio. The tried to copy lilienthal but found nis data flawed. And engineers and designers build aircraft. Demented,power-crazed murderers become nazis or stalin. Burgess- Dunne may have "invented" the flying wing when Jack and the Hortens were in diapers. And doesn't anyone care that this aircraft, suitably treated with RAM, ferrite paint, carbon laminate,conical jet intake spike and RAM baffles and a gold tinted canopy, could have been the first generation stealth airplane if only the myriad technological and metallurgical hurdles facing proper engine manufacture had been solved. I heard they did use carbon/sawdust in the skinning.
Jeff, e-mail, 06.04.2009 18:53
(Kong) Electric Flight International has some nice plans that are for the Ho IX and uses a pair od WeMoTec ducted fans with a 68.5" (1740mm) wingspan. The ribs are all built up, not sheet, so it can be safely enlarged. I got my plans from an Ebay supplier.
Jeff, e-mail, 06.04.2009 18:46
(BoydKid) The Northrop N9M and Horton Go 229 were designed separately at about the same time, without the knowledge of the other (AFAIK). The N9m first flew in 1941, 4 years before we aquired the Go 229 at the end of the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_N-9M
Jack Northrop had a national reputation for an interest in flying wings before the war (and before we recovered wing technology from Germany). He got permission to use the wing plans and materials for aircraft consideration.
The US Government nixxed any flying wing plans, not Northrop (Northrop wanted to continue, but lost Federal funding), on the grounds that there were other designs that were more acceptable platforms, better handling, cheaper, conventional, and/or easier to build.
(Castle22R) Hitler didn't Concieve this design, the Horton brothers did, and Goering gave the official authority to build it. Hitler had no part in it but to give his ok to Goering.
I hope the NASM does restore this plane and display it with their Me 262 in the same exhibition hall, perhaps with some Mustangs and P-38's and a N9M.
Kong, e-mail, 19.02.2009 18:50
Hi there, Is there anywhere that I can find the original plans of Horten GO-229? Best regards, Kong
J P Brito, e-mail, 15.01.2009 01:32
If you'll take the time to explore in detail another great website, www.luft46.com, you'll see how advanced the German aerospace investigation was by late wartime (also NASA took huge profits on this), fortunately that Hitler and the people sorrounding him were blind enough to save us from bigger troubles :-)
wayne holmes, 13.01.2009 03:31
Where is the Horten XVIII Amerika bomber ??
Boyd Kidd, e-mail, 06.01.2009 19:59
You think that is Bad? look at the stupidity demonstrated by the United States. It first of all has all of this technology, with copies dropped into their hand at the Wars end. What does it do with it? I locks it away for 50 - 60 - 70 Years until some dummy comes along and says what is this. Then we take off running ninety on a thrity mph track telling the world about all of this new Technology! In a pigs eye new. The bottem line here is that that Russians understood what they got, looked at it immediately, put it into service or set it asside, developing their weapons from the AK through A Bomb based on German designs. While at the same time, we went back to sleep, hell the War was over!
fabio, 04.01.2009 14:34
A Wonderfull Flying Wing!!! Iam wanted Skins For This Beautifull Flying Wing !!!
bao, e-mail, 02.01.2009 16:41
Now there are only one survival go 229 protype there was good flying wing fighter
Valentin, e-mail, 18.11.2008 22:17
Do you have the dawing of GO 229? If who have sand my plise
Volker Steiger, 01.10.2008 17:41
You can fly this baby in IL2, a famous Flightsim for PC. They designed the model based on original plans.
Joshrv144, e-mail, 26.09.2008 03:31
Best fighter in the Luftwaffe at that time in my opinion. The Horten Ho 229 looks similar to the XB-35, YB-49 and the B-2
Engel, 24.08.2008 11:34
Wings are available !
B2 might have only looked like a copy would this aircraft already have been restored and on display.
L.Head, e-mail, 28.07.2008 15:45
war ended and the advanced tech info goes to Jack Northrop..
Castle22r, e-mail, 12.07.2008 01:29
Only a Nazi like Hitler could even deceive a plane like this.Of all my 7 years of studying ww2 I have never saw anything like this.
Harry peters, 14.05.2008 18:05
amazing
Harry peters, 14.05.2008 18:05
amazing
Aero-Fox, 27.03.2008 17:44
Apparently, the sample th U.S got ahold of is being restored at the Smithsonian Institution for the Air & Space museum...who knows, they may even get it into flyable condition...the center fuselage and engines are mostly intact, but new wings have to be built...
nitu andrei, e-mail, 10.03.2008 20:32
it whant to kill you,it look's like it came from hell(i'm from romania)
nitu andrei, e-mail, 10.03.2008 20:29
a nice aircraft
Massimo Battistin, e-mail, 10.03.2008 00:21
I'm italian (forgive my naive english). I read on H. Nowarra's four volume essay about history of german aircraft technology that a sample of this revolutionary aircraft was brought in U.S.A., together with large amount of drawings and projects for the so called "wunderwaffen"(==wonderweapons).
Dr. Nikholas M. Stage--PHD., e-mail, 10.11.2007 17:07
This is where the modern USAF B-2 "stealth-Spirit" bomber got it's start with the Horten GO-229, more than sixty years ago.
Nazi Germany was well ahead in military aircraft technology, but Hitler failed to give his "go-ahead" in deployment of these aircraft. Ergo hoc; Germany lost World War Two. ALSO: Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was of the same "mind-set" as Hitler, but he, Stalin, had geography,time, and the vastness of the Soviet geo-political heartland to "save his skin".
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